Talk:National Socialism

Please add Portal:National Socialism to "See also". --Crusader (talk) 20:03, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

The National Socialist definition of socialism

Right-wing populists and their supporters accuse National Socialism of being “left-wing” because National Socialism was “socialist” and “socialism” is left-wing. This is usually done because the worldview (mostly of boomers) says that National Socialism is metaphysically evil and that today's anti-national leftists are just as evil as the National Socialists. The conversation between the right-wing populist Weidel and Elon Musk in particular has revived this accusation.

Of course, National Socialism has nothing to do with Marxism and the National Socialists and the NSDAP have already made it clear themselves what they understand by “socialism”

Since the article is read-only, I suggest it here.

--Heaviness1225 (talk) 18:10, 28 February 2025 (UTC)

All-in-all, I agree ... BUT, the argument is de facto not wrong ... socialism is in general leftist, and as many books have shown, the early NSDAP as well as the SA had leftist, anti-conservative, working-class tendencies. Although I must say, the definitions of "left" and "right" are spongy (especially today), always depending on the source of the academic debate. --Crusader (talk) 19:20, 28 February 2025 (UTC)

National Socialism cannot be described as “left-wing”. The arguments that right-wing populists like to use in favor of it are that there was no Manchester capitalism (there was and still is no Manchester capitalism in Germany) and that there was a centrally administered economy during the war (it is impossible to run a war economy without state planning). National Socialism was an elite ideology that was never characterized by this class-struggle, envious view of history. Emperors, kings, princes, bishops, landowners, industrialists, entrepreneurs, knights and generals were evaluated according to their historical achievements, but the very existence of classes was never questioned. --Heaviness1225 (talk) 22:39, 28 February 2025 (UTC)